Pam Dunagan is a political science professor at Northwest Vista College in San Antonio. Having spent a number of years as a clinical counselor and also as a volunteer choir singer, Pam has a unique perspective on how choral music can contribute to the mental health of teenagers and adults alike. In this conversation, Randy and Pam will explore ways we can help teenagers construct for themselves healthy sanctuaries in the midst of a world that is noisy and recently has demanded a certain amount of isolation.