Pam Dunagan is a frequent and always welcome guest in CUEcast episodes. Today, Pam describes the friendship of two elder statesmen in religion who were close friends for several decades, Bishop Desmond Tutu and the Dali Lama. Although very different in their views of religion, the common spirituality and decency of both men made them lifelong friends and colleagues on the journey of making the world a better place. Listen as Pam describes the joy these two celebrated in one of their last meetings together. From this colorful story, you and I can learn to celebrate the joy and the presence of God in each moment of our lives.